In this episode, Phil and Roy welcome Savannah and Ollie to the show! We hear about each of their backgrounds in herpetoculture, before diving into their shared passion for lizards of the genus Abronia. We cover a lot of ground in this one – from the controversy surrounding the origins of the genus in captivity, to the specifics of their husbandry, breeding, and natural history! If you’re interested in learning more about Abronia, this is a great starting point!

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