In this episode, Phil and Roy welcome Bill Strand of The Chameleon Academy to the show! We hear about his background in herpetoculture, how he has built a strong community within herpetoculture, the value of education, his visions for the future of our shared discipline, and a whole lot more. This is one of our most moving episodes to date!

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